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Host: Brent
VirginWorlds is a weekly news podcast covering Massively Multiplayer Online Role Playing Games (MMORPGs) such as World of Warcraft, EverQuest, Guild Wars, City of Heroes, Eve Online, Vanguard, Lord of the Rings Online and many many more. The VirginWorlds MMORPG Podcast is the flagship podcast of the VirginWorlds MMO Podcast Collective found at http://www.virginworlds.com

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VirginWorlds Podcast #67
Mon, 7 May 2007 06:01:00 GMT [download/play]



Show 67 has more news than you can swallow. Seriously. It is really dense. Chew thoroughly before swallowing. VirginWorlds.com will not be responsible for its listeners choking on MMO news. (And yes, it has been a long day.)

Topics this week:
  • Blizzard isn't building a Starcraft MMO, or so says I
  • Colony Studios is super experienced
  • EverQuest takes it down a notch
  • EverQuest 2 gives us free evil
  • IGE bought by MMO Public Enemy Number One
  • The Burning Sea smolders a bit longer
  • Runescape is 'teh winner'
  • Star Wars Galaxies gets wild
  • Tabula Rasa moves ahead
  • Vanguard and SOE - What does it all mean?
  • What I'm playing
  • and the return of Listener Mail!

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    Episode 67 Discussion Thread

    'Done good sir...' by darrenl
    Submitted on 2007-05-07 09:14:53 CST
    http://tcsgamer.blogspot.com/2007/05/challenge.html




    'I kinda disagree' by Shouryuu
    Submitted on 2007-05-07 13:12:59 CST
    I haven't listened to the podcast yet, but I kind of disagree with what you (Darren) said about innovation. While I do see your point, you need solid foundations on which you can build your innovation before even thinking of innovating, there is a problem with your logic; you don't ask yourself if these foundations are the right ones.

    To speak through a cooking metaphor; to me, MMORPGs today are using the wrong ingredients, in the wrong quantities. To some extent, what you suggest they do, is somehow find a way to use the righ quantity of wrong ingredients. But the more they work on getting the right quantity of wrong ingredients, the more they'll think they're getting the right quantity of right ingredients.

    What I'm trying to get to, is that the more you ask for polish, the more you'll get it, and the less the industry is going to risk innovating because that might mean less polish. So we run the risk of playing WoW clone after WoW clone after WoW clone...

    Sorry if I didn't make much sens of misunderstood you, I'm passing exams and kinda tired.



    'OK...' by darrenl
    Submitted on 2007-05-07 13:21:18 CST
    I don't think that asking for quality products, or "polish" from MMO developers will discourage innovation. I honestly think that they have quality process issues that need to be worked out. Once effort is spent on nailing down a "repeatable" swing quality wise, you'll be surprised on how much time left you have in the design phase of a project for innovation.

    Are they using the right ingredients? Don't know. I don't think that was the point of my article...nor do I think I addressed on whether the current mechanics are right. You may be right...maybe they do have the current MMO implementation all wrong and that's part of the problem. Who knows.

    :)



    'What were innovations?' by Wilhelm2451
    Submitted on 2007-05-07 15:56:21 CST
    What innovations of the past might be a parallel to those we might expect to see in MMOs?

    An example: First there was turn based strategy games. Then somebody made such a game that ran in real time, without turns, thus a new genre was born.

    So is it possible that MMOs simply are what they are and that anything that is truly innovation will, in the end, spawn a new, separate, and distinct genre?



    'Pictures...?' by Dathmar
    Submitted on 2007-05-10 10:58:26 CST
    Brent,
    The title pictures you have used for the last few podcasts - what games are they from ? - just was interested.
    From say Podcast #63
    Thanks



    'pictures from...' by Brent
    Submitted on 2007-05-10 11:25:53 CST
    63 - Voyage Century.
    65 - CoH/CoV (I think)
    66 - Anarchy Online
    67 - LotRO



    'CoX pic' by Sente
    Submitted on 2007-05-10 13:07:54 CST
    Yes, the #65 picture looks like one of the pictures showing one of the new wing custome piece options that was made available through Issue 9.