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No Prisoners, No Mercy
Host: Julie Whitefeather & Frances Kosac
There comes a time, friends, when your favorite MMO ceases to sparkle, when even new videogames lose their luster, and the computer room becomes a prison; and all that is left are two gamers (who happen to be nuns) with a very large axe to grind. Come join Julie Whitefeather and Frances Kosac as they go to War - and along the way discuss the events of the week in the MMO industry.

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No Prisoners, No Mercy - Show 2
Thu, 14 Aug 2008 03:00:00 GMT [download/play]



Show 2: Rob Pardo is in League with the Devil
Host: Julie Whitefeather
Guest: Fran Kosac
 
1.) Rob Pardo is in league with the devil
2.) In virtual space no one can hear the monsters scream
3.) Fool me once shame on you...
4.) That old beta magic
5.) Farmers feel the spirit
6.) The Older Gamers can be contacted at www.theoldergamers.com
 
Next week: Richard Garriott eats crow or...the harbingers of the harbingers of failure

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Episode 2 Discussion Thread

'Great Show!' by Jmo
Submitted on 2008-08-14 00:52:27 CST
Great Second Show Julie. And I for one would love to see Fran come back as either a regular guest or a co-host.

You brought up some great points during the show, but I feel the greatest of these was mentioning the fact that there are actually other people playing the game with you. Those "pixels" walking around actually have living, breathing humans behind them. I believe many of us get so into our fantasy world that we forget the reality of what an MMO really is. It's the same in all MMOs: EQ 1&2, WoW, WAR, AoC, EVE, SWG, you name it. It struck me so much so, that I've begun writing a blog/article about it myself as I feel there's some things I as well need to get off my chest about the topic.

How "brave" and cold some can be behind the shield of anonymity.

Keep up the good work.

~Jmo



'Why weren't there Nuns like you two when I was young?' by BiggDawg98
Submitted on 2008-08-14 12:52:20 CST
You two are hands down the coolest Nuns in history. Please clone yourselves.. Thanks!


'Agreed' by Seritaph
Submitted on 2008-08-14 14:43:09 CST
I agree with the comments of being kind to other players. One of the main reasons I play MMO games (other than loving RPG character building games) is that you get the opportunity to meet and build friendships with people from all over the world.

BTW I have an army of High Elves painted up if you ever want to play. :)

I agree Warcraft pretty much ripped off Warhammer in the beginning, but over time they've kind of finessed it into their own I.P. I too am eager for W.A.R., but at the same time reluctant in that I don't want to deal with the level of immaturity that infested WoW and Conan when they launched. PVP based games seem to attract that like ants to a picnic. Other than that, W.A.R. sounds amazing.



'Woot!' by Checksix
Submitted on 2008-08-14 15:45:30 CST
Another fun show, Julie! You're quickly becoming one of my favorite podcasters.

Hair on cue ball...bwahahahahah!



'Just a few quick comments' by scytale2
Submitted on 2008-08-15 19:34:03 CST
Thanks for responding on the issue of Nuns vs Warlocks - I suppose it's only fair to expect a cross section of opinion on MMO across all walks of life. Pronounce scytale2 how you like.

You touched on an interesting controversial subject, which has been debated extensively on some of the game forums. the subject was whether older gamers should have an opportunity to "get away from the kids". People get all uppity about kids being more mature (polite) than adults and adults being the nastiest, but still having an "adults only" server or whole game would imho be a good thing.

On the negative side, the music was garish and too loud - whatever happened to the nice Classical sounds on podcasts? I also felt that the first show was punchier.

However, your delivery is good and draws the listener in. To me the content needs to be a bit more meaty. Fewer subjects with more discussion over the same or similar time period would be ideal. That would avoid things being too piecemeal.

I enjoyed it, though - it's a bit surreal with it being delivered by two nuns:)



'thanks for all the comments' by Julie
Submitted on 2008-08-16 05:50:09 CST
Thanks for all the comments and compliments. - especially BiggDawg98. I don't think anyone has ever said anything quite that nice to me and I have been married twice; two cloned nuns coming right up.

Scytale2 - what can I say. I am a loud and kind of garish person. Classical music? To me the "classics" have names like Aerosmith, and The Rolling Stones.

There will be two changes. Fran has agreed to come back as a co-host, and once warhammer beta starts we will be adding a warhammer section.

Thanks again to all

Julie



'Author J.T. Hamption to appear on No Prisoners No Mercy' by Julie
Submitted on 2008-08-19 11:05:34 CST
Noted author J.T. Hampton has kindly agreed to appear on the next No Prisoners, No Mercy. If we are lucky we might get him to appear on more than one show. J.T. Hampton is the author of Inferno and the soon to be released novels Metamorphosis and Inferno:uncut. He is author of Conspiracies End to be released at an upcoming Star Trek Con where he will be appearing.

With World of Darkness MMO being developed by CCP/White Wolf Publishing and Star Trek Online, Mr. Hampton will speak on both genre's as he has written works in both areas. He will also speak about his upcoming works.

Join us on the next No Prisoners, No Mercy and hear what Mr. Hampton has to say.

Julie Whitefeather



'Great Show' by Gnova
Submitted on 2008-08-19 16:01:21 CST
I really enjoyed this episode. It was a little less ranty but still got your viewpoints across.

I especially liked the part about behaviour in MMOs. I've seen a few bad things happen in MMOs but I'br experienced far more really nice kind things overall. Too bad everyone remembers the jerkish minorities but not the nice player majority.
These are games. Why the hell would someone choose to ruin another players experience for the sake of a bit of potential loot?

As for character levels forward from beta to launch. No no no no, and no. The only way I would ever imagine it being okay (with me and my warped sense of fairness) is if the characters woudln't be unlocked for play until 2 or 3 weeks after server launch.



'Great show - my sides hurt! - here's an update on Flagship' by Lostinspace
Submitted on 2008-08-19 16:36:30 CST
I really enjoyed both shows, after much ROFLing I have to concur with the initial attitude on Flagship and my own plunking down on a Founder's membership! I noticed an interview has finally been scored with Bill Roper. Check out the story on the 1up site. Actually seems like a sad tale and I would tend to tone down my own vitriolic commentary on the situation - its now relegated to a sad shake of the head :

http://www.1up.com/do/feature?pager.offset=0&cId=3169356



'The 1UP/Bill roper interview' by Lostinspace
Submitted on 2008-08-19 17:43:41 CST
There's actually another story there on 1UP:
http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3169387



'Bill Roper' by Julie
Submitted on 2008-08-19 19:26:24 CST
Yes, as soon as the article came across my Virginworlds news ticker I took a look at it and I didn't have to get past the first page of the 1up.com interview to decided that there were some world sized kudos in order here. So while there is some serious karma and some world class Jackassery to be discussed in the show (being recorded tommorow) there is also some world class tooting of Mr. Ropers trumpet to be done...and if you will pardon the pun he seems like one "helluva" guy.

Julie



'Follow up up note...' by Julie
Submitted on 2008-08-19 19:30:57 CST
As a follow up note...why can't I edit these things...neither the karma nor the world class jackassery discussions have anything whatsoever to do with Flagship. Another note, Sister Frances has agreed to be the new co-host of the show. And there is also some world class coolness to be discussed.

Julie



'A hearty W00t on that news!!' by Lostinspace
Submitted on 2008-08-19 20:26:54 CST
Most excellent, great to hear we are going to be regularly treated to a double helping of Sisterly MMOwnage. Sister Frances sure seems to be a fun and extremely knowledgeable counterpart. Hmmmm I wonder if you were to cover MMO PvP where you are on opposite sides, maybe we might even be treated to the ecclesiastical podcast equivalent of GFW's Tom vs Bruce.

Cheers

Martin

Aka Lostinspace



'Good Nun, Bad Nun' by Julie
Submitted on 2008-08-20 08:50:10 CST
While I will be the first to admit that I don't listen to GFW it is funny that you should mention this. I am starting to wonder if you are psychic. Since the last show we have been discussing a feature we are going to call "good nun-bad nun" as in the whole detective show "good cop-bad cop" thing.

We found ourselves disagreeing on the way Blizzard has people become death knights after it was recently discussed on a 1up podcast.

So...

Starting with Show Three I bring you (if all works out well, considering we have a very special guest planned in the person of J.T. Hampton) "Good Nun, Bad Nun" Guess who gets to be "bad nun" *winks*

Julie



'To J.T. Hampton's Fans...' by Julie
Submitted on 2008-08-21 08:47:53 CST
A quick note to J.T. Hamptons fans who I know are waiting to hear Mr. Hampton. After an initial recording mishap where we lost 40 minutes of show (not to fear not a minute of it was J.T.) Mr. Hampton spoke into the night; as we told him he could. In fact he spoke for about four times the length of our average show.

As a result the editing process will be delayed because, of course, take much longer. We will also be breaking up Mr. Hamptons discussions/interview into a short series that will be featured on our next 3 to 4 podcasts. Look for the show later this week.

Julie and Fran