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Through the Aftermath
Host: Shawn and Jonathan
Through the Aftermath is a podcast that focuses on the post-apocalyptic genre of media. Join your hosts Shawn and Jonathan each episode as they explore the latest news, stories, reviews and more. While the main focus will be gaming, they will also discuss any other forms of media that have influenced their favorite post-apocalyptic pastime. Through the Aftermath is a member of the VirginWorlds Podcast Collective.

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Through the Aftermath Episode 2
Sat, 31 Jan 2009 19:35:00 GMT [download/play]

On this second episode of Through the Aftermath, Shawn and Jonathan cover quite a bit as they're already breaking their "under 1 hour" rule. The main topic is Mad Max and the brand new Fallout 3 DLC.

- Fallen Earth State of the Game
- I Am Alive to launch in March
- Earthrise on the year ahead
- Fallout 3's game-stopping endgame changing for all platforms except PS3
- Check out this hilarious apocalyptic comedy: The Remnants
- Hellgate: London going free to play and not closing down afterall
- New PA show coming to NBC, from one of the writers of Heroes
- Fallout 3 downloadable content released earlier this week

Main Topic: Mad Max:
Shawn and Jonathan go through the basic premise of the movie and how it affected them growing up. They mention their favorite scenes and some little-known facts from behind the scenes.
Great Mad Mad resource:

Fallout 3: Operation Anchorage Impressions:
S & J give some impressions on the new DLC for Fallout 3 and why you should spend the $10 on it. Shawn mentions a great review at that you all need to see.

Keep in touch with us via the Facebook page, email or on Twitter. We'll be holding a Twitter contest on Thursday, February 5th. Simply follow us on Twitter and watch our Twitter feed at exactly 3pm EST/8pm GMT on Feb 5th for a trivia question about Mad Max. The first person to correctly answer that question in their Twitter feed (e.g.: @aftermathshow the answer is RHUBARB!) will win a Special Edition Mad Max DVD from Spread the word, get your friends in on this too!

No John this week, but he should be back for next show!

All movie audio clips are copyright Mad Max.

Theme music is "The Fourth Tribe" by Michael Gordon Shapiro. Used with permission.

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Episode 2 Discussion Thread

'The Perfect Podcast' by telstar
Submitted on 2009-02-01 01:04:13 CST
I am a huge fan of the aftermath gaming genre going all the way back to Gamma World RP pen/paper. Thanks to both of you for carving out the time to do the cast. Love your enthusiasm for the content and your ideas for the future of the show.

I can't understand why companies like 38 studios didn't jump on this type of game content rather than another high fantasy sword and magic game. Seems like the younger crowd out there may not understand what it was like to grow up during the threat of nuclear war everyday. At 40 years old I still remember when I was young what it was like during the Reagan years. Imagining myself, my dog and my trusty modified laser pistol exploring burned out buildings after the world was torn apart by nuclear war, occasionally finding a small piece of technology that could be used to build something useful.

Fallout 3 seemed to give the whole genre a boost but is it enough to build a solid MMO platform? I sure hope so. I think it's success may be in trying to build in the element of us vs. them. Mutants vs. the survivors. WoW had a good idea in building that hatred for the horde (or alliance). I remember how much I hated the horde the first couple years of WoW. I would love to see a game be that real kind of emotion again. Particularly with a survival type theme it makes a lot of sense to make it a very open world, pvp centric game.

Anyway, awesome show and I can't wait to hear more.

'yay end of the world!!!' by rocknerd
Submitted on 2009-02-02 09:39:18 CST
so, thanks to fallout 3, ive really enjoyed the post-apoc genre as of late. i did play fallout 1 around release but never got too far into it. then i skipped 2 and bought tactics which i still play and love it. after fallout 3 launched i watched all the mad maxes again with renewed respect. it was another cast in which shawn was talking about this genre, maybe massively, of P-As and such that got me kind of throttled for the genre as a whole. so i will enjoy this cast and will only add a few ideas.

1- shawn, (the guy who loves LotRO from the massively cast correct?) there are NO decent LotRO podcasts as of right now. i know, ringcast, but theres very few releases and low content. i would love to see you start one up, i think you would do well to head one up, and i would love to contribute in any way needed.

2- have you guys ever heard of earthdawn? it was a FASA tabletop fantasy PA!!! i loved it. more than any other fantasy setting, it was quite a hidden gem that never got any attention and it folded shortly after. i think its still going as a 2nd Ed. put out by a semi-professional group of people that was able to get it published, but i havent been following it since. i would love to hear your opinions on earthdawn guys.

anyways, cheers guys and thanks for the swell new cast!

'Post Apocalyptia' by CindyL
Submitted on 2009-02-02 17:27:53 CST
Really enjoyed this episode, but you released on the weekend! Too busy with the family to listen to podcasts... QQ It did made me look forwards to Monday though, no small feat. XD

I watched Mad Max 1 and 2 over the weekend, I had actually never seen them before, maybe caught a few scenes when I was little before being ushered to bed, that's about it. The first movie caught us off guard because we thought it would be more like Mad Max 2-3 which is what was hyped for all these years. The pace of the movie was very odd, very slow at times and then suddenly very fast.

But for the budget it had it's a very well done movie for the times too. I really liked Mad Max 2, a lot more Fallout-ish. Really awesome to hear the DCL is decent too.

I think you should have actual forums on your site, I'm not a big Facebook user at all but love foruming. Maybe it would demand too much of your time but I think it would get some use.

'Aftermath Wins my High Regard' by tpajeek
Submitted on 2009-02-03 15:02:05 CST
Guys, you have created a new podcast that should be an absolute smash hit!

It is a genre that has been neglected for far to long in this arena and the two of you will do a fantastic job.

I have enjoyed the format so far and would like to see you go in depth a little more on specific games, so people get a better grasp of how they play. For example, V.A.T.S. in Fallout series. Too many have no clue what this is or how it plays so different than a normal FPS style.

Loved the movie review and look forward to checking out the books and comics based on all of your recommendations.

Can't wait for the next episode... can you make it weekly for the first two months or so? OK OK... I will practice patience!

'are you guys free pooping???' by rocknerd
Submitted on 2009-02-05 09:48:47 CST
badass!!! LMAO!!!

great show, thanks....

everyone go watch the remnants!!!

'operation anchorage' by dan
Submitted on 2009-02-12 03:56:19 CST
i've got fallout 3 for the xbox 360 and have been loving it. Is there anyway to get the new expansion thingy, without buying with microsoft points?

'Great podcasts' by Pufnstuf
Submitted on 2009-02-13 21:44:57 CST
As a fan of these sort of movies I liked the whole Mad Max discussion. I am not as into the games (since I am a LOTRO nut).

Have you ever seen the movie Threads? This is one worth noting as it makes Testament and The Day After look like happy movies. Probably the scariest movie I have ever seen and recently on DVD.

'Generic Post Title' by Julie
Submitted on 2009-02-13 22:55:42 CST
I enjoyed the show and the topics you chose. In fact after putting it off for so long I finally went out and picked up fallout 3. So far I have been having a great time - it has not been as hard to get used to the controls as I feared. My biggest fear was that the movement controls would be as difficult as the "Witcher" game (the main reason I quit playing it).

Keep up the good work.

Julie Whitefeather

'A question' by Julie
Submitted on 2009-02-13 23:14:52 CST
Here is a question for you. The wiki site on Fallout that you web site points to talks about a "G.E.C.K modding kit" for fallout 3 - just exactly what is this and where do I find out more about it?

Julie Whitefeather

'Many Thanks!' by Jonathan
Submitted on 2009-02-14 19:56:55 CST
Thanks for all your kind comments!

@Julie - The G.E.C.K. is the editing tool for Fallout3 that essentially gives you the ability to change just about everything in the game. You could add a new area, redo all the textures, or even redo the entire game! This is one of the reasons why I love Bethesda... by releasing the editing tools, it gives the community the ability to continue to add to the game for years to come! Examples of FO3 mods can be found at "" and info about the G.E.C.K. and how to use it can be found at "". Enjoy! :)

@Pufnstuf - That's funny you mention "Threads"... I just watched it for the first time this week, and WOW... like you said, it makes the other movies look like an "Afterschool Special". What a great movie though... I passed it on to Shawn and I have no doubt we'll be talking about this one in the future!

@Telstar - What you said about "will it be enough for a solid MMO platform really got me thinking". There's definately an opportunity here for the MMO devs... If they can get us to feel like we're in a totally desolate world where we have to band to together to survive, the game could definately have a much different feel than other MMO's. The ability to feel like part of the story will be very important here. Rather than viewing a typical MMO raid like "here we go to kill a boss", if we can feel like our very survival depends on the outcome like other PA games, this could be a really powerful experience. I can't wait to see what they do! :)

@Rocknerd - If I'm not mistaken I think some friends of mine back in High School used to play Earthdawn! Wow, that just brought back some major memories! I'm going to take a peek at that game now... you've piqued my interest. BTW, you should totally take a peek at "Exodus" as well... it's a tabletop RPG that was made by a group of guys who wanted an RPG based on Fallout. Everything I've seen on it looks like a game we'd all have a riot with!